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Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?
Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?
Dec 23, 2024 10:14 PM

In exactly one hundred days, sport climbing will once-again grace the Olympic Games, and the search for the next Olympic sport climbing champions will begin.

When climbing debuted at the Tokyo Olympics in 2021, there were a number of memorable moments. Janja cruising her way to the gold, Akiyo bowing out of competition climbing with a bronze in front of her home crowd, Jakob topping the lead route and realising that he'd won bronze, and even Bassa Mawem's heartbreaking torn bicep, which meant he was unable to compete in the final.

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?1

Perhaps one of the most powerful memories, however, was of confusion, confusion that speed, lead, and boulder - three disciplines that are so very different - had been combined together, and confusion at the scoring system, which seemed to reward winning an individual event more generously than consistently performing well across all three events.

In Paris, much of this will change. Whilst we may not yet have the three individual events that we all wanted - that's likely to debut in LA in 2028 - we did get a partial split, with one set of medals being awarded for Speed, and one set for a combination of Boulder and Lead.

Last year, Natalie published a breakdown of the new and (I would argue) improved scoring system. Whilst the combined format still requires some maths, it seems a bit more fair than the Tokyo system, and certainly rewards consistent performance across the two events more than it does winning the individual events.

Which got me wondering, if this system had been in place last Olympics, with Boulder and Lead combined with the new scoring system, who would have taken the Gold?

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?2

A reminder of the Paris scoring system: As Natalie explained in her (much more in depth) piece on the Paris scoring system, the scoring in Paris will work as follows:

Boulder

There will be four boulders in total at the Paris Olympics, each of which will have two zones and one top, with points allocated as follows:

ZONE 1 - 5 POINTS: Five points will be awarded to climbers who are able to control the first zone hold only.

ZONE 2 - 10 POINTS: Ten points will be awarded to climbers who are able to control the second zone hold, but not the top hold, regardless of whether they controlled the first zone hold.

TOP - 25 POINTS: Twenty-five points will be awarded for a Top, regardless of whether the competitor has controlled any of the Zone holds. Within the Bouldering, number of attempts will be accounted for through points deductions, with 0.1 points being deducted for each failed attempt on a boulder.

For example, a flash of a boulder would be worth 25 points; a second-go Top would be worth 24.9 points; reaching the first Zone on a third attempt would be worth 4.8 points.

Note: the 0.1 point deduction only applies to attempts prior to controlling the highest Zone or Top.

i.e. an athlete who got to the second Zone on their first attempt, but then failed to get that far again over the next four attempts, would have a score of 10, due to getting the second zone on their first attempt. Were that climber to go on to reach the top of the boulder on their sixth attempt, their score would change to 24.5 points. 25 points for the Top, and -0.5 points for the five previous failed attempts to reach the Top.

The deduction is only relevant for 'attempts until success' at the highest tier of hold (Zone 1, Zone 2 or Top) reached.

Total points available: 100

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?3

Lead

The Lead routes (one per round) will be split into sections of holds, with each section gradually awarding a greater number of points per hold as the athletes progress up the route.

Only the highest 40 holds of the Lead route will grant points to the athletes.

From the Top to the bottom:

The highest 10 holds = 4 points per hold

The 10 holds prior = 3 points per hold

The 10 holds prior = 2 points per hold

The 10 holds prior = 1 point per hold

Any holds beneath that = 0 points per hold Athletes who fall while moving towards the next hold will be awarded +0.1 points, the equivalent of the '+' in World Cup scoring.

(Climbers must secure the Top hold and clip the final quickdraw for 100 points to be awarded. Failure to clip will result in a score of 99.9, or an early clip without continuing to the Top hold will not be scored as a Top/100 points.)

Total points available: 100

The Combined Score

The Paris 2024 scoring system is a simple addition of the points earned in the Boulder and Lead rounds.

The maximum Combined score is 100 + 100 = 200 points.

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?4

Some necessary adjustments... For a number of reasons, retro-fitting the Paris scoring system to the Tokyo Olympics is far from an exact science.

Firstly, I'm ignoring qualification, which would have almost certainly put a different group of men and women into their respective finals. If someone fancies checking that out then be my guest, but I'm starting from the final...

Secondly, the fact that there were only three boulders with one zone apiece in Tokyo, whilst there will be four boulders with two zones apiece in Paris, complicates things.

As there was only a single zone per boulder in Tokyo, it's impossible to accurately work out how the boulder event would have been scored, because we don't know where the first and second zone holds might have been placed. As such, instead of randomly allocating a lower zone hold for each boulder, I've imagined that Tokyo was simply a '10 points for the zone' situation.

Finally, as both boulder and lead will be scored out of 100 in Paris, we have to do a little bit of adjusting with the relative values of each discipline. There will be four boulders in Paris whilst there were only three in Tokyo, so instead of imagining a fourth boulder, or making each boulder worth 33.333333333 points, I've simply made the maximum score for both boulder and lead 75 instead of 100.

That means that we'll score the boulder normally - three boulders with 25 points each as a maximum score - but we'll multiply the lead scores of the Tokyo athletes by 0.75 so that the maximum score for lead is 75 as well, to ensure that lead scores aren't weighted more heavily than the boulder scores.

Men: In Tokyo, Alberto Gines Lopez came first in Speed, Nathaniel Coleman came first in Boulder, and Jakob Schubert came first in Lead, and it was those three - in that order - that won the Gold, Silver, and Bronze medals.

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?5

The final rankings were as follows:

Alberto Gines Lopez

Nathaniel Coleman

Jakob Schubert

Tomoa Narasaki

Mickael Mawem

Adam Ondra

Colin Duffy

Bassa Mawem

Boulder:

Under the adjusted Paris scoring system, the boulder round would have been scored as follows:

Alberto Gines Lopez

A5 Z1 T0 - points 10

A11 Z7 T0 - points 9.4

A4 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 29.4/75 Nathaniel Coleman

A1 Z1 T1 - points 25

A3 Z2 T3 - points 24.8

A2 Z1 T0 - points - 10

Overall points: 59.8/75 Jakob Schubert

A1 Z1 T1 - points 25

A6 Z5 T0 - points 9.6

A4 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 44.6/75 Tomoa Narasaki

A1 Z1 T1 - points 25

A7 Z3 T0 - points 9.8

A2 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 44.8/75 Michael Mawem

A1 Z1 T1 - points 25

A4 Z1 T0 - points 10

A2 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 45/75 Adam Ondra

A2 Z1 T2 - points 24.9

A8 Z0 T0 - points 0

A3 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 34.9/75 Colin Duffy

A1 Z1 T1 - points 25

A5 Z3 T0 - points 9.8

A5 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 44.8/75 Bassa Mawem - DNS

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?6

Lead:

There were 45 holds on the men's route in Tokyo, meaning that the scores would have been calculated as follows:

Holds 36-45: 4 points

Holds 26-35: 3 points

Holds 16-25: 2 points

Holds 6-15: 1 point

Holds 0-5: no points

Movement towards the next hold: +0.1 point A reminder that all lead scores are multiplied by 0.75 in this instance, to account for the fact that there were only three boulders in Tokyo, whereas there will be four in Paris.

Alberto Gines Lopez

Hold reached: 38+

10+20+30+12+0.1 = 72.1

Adjusted score: 54.075/75 Nathaniel Coleman

Hold reached: 34+

10+20+27+0.1 = 57.1

Adjusted score: 42.825/75 Jakob Schubert

Hold reached: Top

10+20+30+40 = 100

Adjusted score: 75/75 Tomoa Narasaki

Hold reached: 33+

10+20+24+0.1 = 54.1

Adjusted score: 40.575/75 Michael Mawem

Hold reached: 23+

10+16+0.1 = 26.1

Adjusted score: 19.575/75 Adam Ondra

Hold reached: 42+

10+20+30+28+0.1 = 88.1

Adjusted score: 66.075/75 Colin Duffy

Hold reached: 40

10+20+30+20 = 80

Adjusted score: 60/75 Bassa Mawem - DNS

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?7

Overall scores:

Alberto Gines Lopez

29.4 + 54.075 = 83.475 Nathaniel Coleman

59.8 + 42.825 = 106.625 Jakob Schubert

44.6 + 75 = 119.6 Tomoa Narasaki

44.8 + 40.575 = 85.375 Michael Mawem

45 + 26.1 = 71.1 Adam Ondra

34.9 + 66.075 = 100.975 Colin Duffy

44.8 + 60 = 104.8 Bassa Mawem - DNS Adjusted medallists:

GOLD - Jakob Schubert - 119.6

SILVER - Nathaniel Coleman - 106.625

BRONZE - Colin Duffy - 104.8 4th - Adam Ondra - 100.975

5th - Tomoa Narasaki - 85.375

6th - Alberto Gines Lopez - 83.475

7th - Michael Mawem - 71.1

8th - Bassa Mawem - DNS

So, instead of the somewhat anti-climactic moment where Jakob topped out the lead route, and in doing so made Alberto Gines Lopez Olympic champion, the updated system would have seen Jakob starting the lead route at the bottom of the pack, and climbing past all other competitors, all the way to Gold. Whilst Coleman would have kept his Silver, Colin Duffy's consistency - coming third in both boulder and lead - would have awarded him a Bronze medal.

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?8

Incidentally, had the Tokyo Olympics been Boulder and Lead only, using the original Tokyo scoring system, then the final results would have been as follows:

Jakob Schubert and Nathaniel Coleman tied for Gold with 6 points.

Adam Ondra and Colin Duffy tied for Bronze with 12 points.

Mickael Mawem comes fifth with 14 points.

Tomoa Narasaki comes sixth with 18 points.

Alberto Gines Lopez comes seventh with 28 points.

Bassa Mawem in 8th.

So, the separation of boulder/lead and speed itself wouldn't have been enough to separate the competitors, and whilst the final standings would have been relatively similar to the imagined Paris results, more separation would have been needed to avoid the three medals being split between four athletes.

What about the women's final?

Women: With Janja Garnbret winning both Boulder and Lead at the Tokyo Olympics, it's no surprise that she also would have won under this new system. In Tokyo, the final results had the top eight arranged as follows:

Janja Garnbret

Miho Nonaka

Akiyo Noguchi

Aleksandra Miroslaw

Brooke Raboutou

Anouck Jaubert

Jessica Pilz

Seo Chaehyun

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?9

However, under the Paris scoring system, things may well have ended up quite differently for one climber in particular...

Boulder:

The boulder round finished as follows:

Janja Garnbret

A1 Z1 T4 - points 24.7

A1 Z1 T1 - points 25

A3 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 59.7/75 Miho Nonaka

A9 Z0 T0 - points 0

A5 Z4 T0 - points 9.7

A4 Z1 T0 - points 10

Overall points: 19.7/75 Akiyo Noguchi

A9 Z5 T0 - points 9.6

A3 Z2 T0 - points 9.9

A5 Z0 T0 - points 0

Overall points: 19.5/75 Alexandra Miroslaw

A8 Z0 T0 - points: 0

A5 Z0 T0 - points 0

A8 Z0 T0 - points 0

Overall points: 0/75 Brooke Raboutou

A6 Z5 T0 - points 9.6

A3 Z3 T0 - points 9.8

A2 Z2 T0 - points 9.9

Overall points: 29.3/75 Anouck Jaubert

A3 Z2 T0 - points 9.9

A7 Z0 T0 - points 0

A5 Z0 T0 - points 0

Overall points: 9.9/75 Jessica Pilz

A7 Z7 T - points 9.4

A5 Z3 T0 - points 9.8

A5 Z0 T0 - points 0

Overall points: 19.2/75 Seo Chaehyun

A6 Z0 T0 - points 0

A3 Z0 T0 - points 0

A3 Z0 T0 - points 0

Overall points: 0/75

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?10

Lead:

As for the men's lead route, the women's had 45 holds, meaning the scoring would have been calculated as follows:

Holds 36-45: 4 points

Holds 26-35: 3 points

Holds 16-25: 2 points

Holds 6-15: 1 point

Holds 0-5: no points

Movement towards the next hold: +0.1 point Again, lead scores are multiplied by 0.75 to make sure that each discipline is weighted equally.

Janja Garnbret

Hold reached: 37+

10+20+30+8+0.1 = 68.1

Overall score: 51.075/75 Miho Nonaka

Hold reached: 21

10+12 = 22

Overall score: 16.5/75 Akiyo Noguchi

Hold reached: 28

10+20+9 = 39

Overall score: 29.25/75 Alexandra Miroslaw

Hold reached: 9+

4+0.1 = 4.1

Overall score: 3.075/75 Brooke Raboutou

Hold reached: 20+

10+10+0.1 = 20.1

Overall score: 15.075/75 Anouck Jaubert

Hold reached: 13+

8+0.1 = 8.1

Overall score: 6.075/75 Jessica Pilz

Hold reached: 34+

10+20+27+0.1 = 57.1

Overall score: 42.825/75 Seo Chaehyun

Hold reached: 35+

10+20+30+0.1 = 60.1

Overall score: 45.075/75

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?11

Overall scores:

Janja Garnbret

59.7 + 51.075 = 110.775 Miho Nonaka

19.7 + 16.5 = 36.25 Akiyo Noguchi

19.5 + 29.25 = 48.75 Alexandra Miroslaw

0 + 3.075 = 3.075 Brooke Raboutou

29.3 + 15.075 = 44.375 Anouck Jaubert

0 + 6.075 = 6.075 Jessica Pilz

19.2 + 42.825 = 62.025 Chaehyun Seo

0 + 45.075 = 45.075 Adjusted medallists:

GOLD - Janja Garnbret - 110.775

SILVER - Jessica Pilz - 62.025

BRONZE - Akiyo Noguchi - 48.75 4th - Chaehyun Seo - 45.075

5th - Brooke Raboutou - 44.375

6th - Miho Nonaka - 36.25

7th - Anouck Jaubert - 6.075

8th - Alexandra Miroslaw - 3.075

Here, perhaps unexpectedly, we see an even bigger change than we do in the men's side of things, with Jessy Pilz jumping from seventh position all the way up to the silver medal position. Janja wins (obviously), and Akiyo retains her farewell bronze, but - with her third place speed finish no longer considered - Miho misses out on a home Olympics silver medal.

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?12

Had the women's comp in Tokyo been Boulder and Lead only (and with the original scoring system) then the final results would have been as follows:

Janja Garnbret would cruise to 1st place with a perfect '1' point.

Brooke Raboutou would take silver with 12 points.

Chaehyun Seo would have slipped into bronze position with 14 points, despite having not reached a single zone in the bouldering.

Both Miho Nonaka and Jessy Pilz would finish in fourth with 15 points.

Akiyo Noguchi would have missed out on her farewell Bronze medal with 16 points.

Anouck Jaubert and Alexandra Miroslaw would have come in seventh and eighth positions, with 42 and 64 points respectively.

Summary: After all was said and done in Tokyo, there was a lot of conversation about how the combination of the scoring system and the combining of speed with lead and boulder had failed to accurately represent both the sport of climbing, and the reality of who the best all-round climber in the world was.

Who would have won Tokyo 2020 under the Paris 2024 scoring system?13

This was particularly noticeable in relation to the men's final, perhaps because many saw it as an opportunity for Adam Ondra to assert his status as the 'greatest of all time', and nobody suspectedAlberto Gines Lopez to take the Gold, whereas Janja strolling her way to the top spot - followed by home favourites Miho and Akiyo - lined up more with our expectations.

However, whilst Jakob may have won gold under the Paris scoring system, and Colin Duffy would have crept onto the podium as well, it's Jessy Pilz who would have benefitted most from a Parisian discipline split and scoring system in Tokyo, as it would likely have taken her from a lowly seventh place all the way to a silver medal.

In reality, of course, this is all conjecture, since speed, lead, and boulderwereall combined in Tokyo, and the scoring systemwasdifferent.

However, in 100 days time,Jakob, Colin,Jessy, and the rest of the Paris 2024 Olympic Athleteswill have a chance to make the most of this new system, when the competition to become the next combined sport climbing Olympic champion begins.

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